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. yes, volatility will be with us for a period of time. but we are very constructive when we look at next year on the whole. >> chris, where's the -- >> what are you seeing today? a fractional move now but it's been very much getting rid of winners and selling into any strength in this market ever since the election. >> well, i guess the question i have for chris, where is the volatility? i'm surprised. the vix has collapsed. it's a rare day when you see the vix down 9%. the stock market, dow is only up 18 points? >> this day has a big asterisk attached to it, don't you think? >> yes, but nonetheless when you saw the stuff over the week we understand a lot of people -- i was surprised how many people were arguing maybe it's not a bad thing to go over the fiscal cliff. i think it's a terrible idea. i'm surprised to see the vix down so much. we have options expiration coming up friday. people are taking off when the risk is rising. i find that a little odd. >> michael, your idea is it's not just about the fiscal cliff. apple is a big factor for this market as well, isn't it? >> no q
no time on this issue today. fitch saying the u.s. needs to fix that debt threat and moody's says it's going to wait before taking any action and maintain its negative outlook on the u.s. economy. one thing is for sure. the stock market is taking the fiscal cliff very seriously. the blue chip average is off the lows but still down sharply at one time today, the dow was down about 369 points. first time we've seen that big of a decline since november 21st of last year. off the lows rights now, the dow down 260 points at 12,985. the nasdaq is down 63 points, a more than 2% decline at 2947. the s&p at this hour is down 28 points right at 1400. let's break down what's behind today's dramatic decline in stocks in today's "closing bell" exchange. we welcome back michael pento, kwint tatro, jeff sika, and our own rick santelli. quint, you believe the market was going to go down either way. why? >> i do. i think this was long overdue. we have been propped up with some incertauncertainty. it's kept the market saying, are we going to get a change? it didn't matter who won. we've been facing pr
on the show as soon as earnings come out. that will be at the top of the next hour. and nyse ceo with us giving us an update two weeks after sandy historically closed sandy for two days. >> still a miracle they got things open when they did. we're oall following the latest in the general petraeus scandal. unbelievable twists, even today. we have a roreport from washington. then, more on how this story is shedding light on how anything you write can be accessed. pretty scary stuff and something to think about. >> really. in the markets right now, fractional gains right now. the dow jones industrial average off the best levels of the afternoon, but still showing a gain of about 17 points. looks like investors wait and see until we get some solutions on the fiscal cliff. nasdaq is negative by a fraction. down about four points. off of the worst levels, by the way. s&p 500 is up about 3 3/4 points at 1383. >> in today's "closing bell" exchange, we have carol roth, bruce mccain, and our own rick santel santelli. rick, i'm going to start with you today because we see that stutter step opening
bell exchange," todd is with us, so is bill, and steve liesman and pisani with us as well. it's expected this market is going to stand and wait to see what the election results are going to be like for tomorrow, right? >> hey, it's human nature. i mean, people have been paralyzed with all these horror stories about fiscal cliffs and the end of the dollar and the end of america. so, when in doubt, do nothing. hide your cash, sit on the sidelines. but i think there's going to be a big plunger effect that could really unleash tidal waves of money as people start to see maybe there's some wonderful surprises, some electoral surprises that just aren't popular right now. >> what are you suggesting? >> i don't know. this nose does more than hold this mustache and glasses and i think it might be a electoral surprise for mr. romney. if that's the case -- >> you think romney wins -- >> i do. >> -- that will be a surprise and this market rallies on that win? >> i think the market rallies big. there will be a lot of money in motion. people will be moving on with decision-making. there's t
over the course of the next 30 days regarding the fiscal cliff, use these as potential buying opportunities. the way we see it right now is over the course of those next five years, we do think that if you're in some good, high-quality stocks, you should be able to provide high, single-digit returns. >> rick, today we've not seen the kind of volatility we've had lately. we still have public posturing politically from speaker boehner and the president. do you make anything of that? is the market becoming immune to the public outcry or what? >> you know, i don't know about the public outcry issue, but i can tell you this. it doesn't surprise me that on a friday the stock market would pay less attention to the tape bombs than other days because of the weekend and the issues of trading and any surprises that come up. i would doubt if you're going to even see much movement in the last hour. treasuries, on the other hand -- well, actually, they're very similar. but where you start to see something different is as our guest was talking about. move outside of treasuries. if you look a
's "closing bell" exchange, dan mcmahon from raymond james is going to join us. also, john from gfi group. our senior economics reporter, steve liesman, and our own rick santelli. john, it is clear that the fiscal cliff has wall street's full attention right now. do you expect a -- something to happen by december 31 or not? >> we expect something is going to happen. what that's going to be, we don't have the clarity we're expecting just yet. i think it's simple math. everybody knows what has to be done. obviously, we've had many, many studies over the course of the last few years that tell us what has to be done. so it is math. it's just about them getting in a room and hammering out the details. so we obviously need some revenue and some cuts across the board. i think it's how those are going play out in terms of what portion and how much is going to be what the market's really keying on. i think $4 trillion is basically the number that's kind of out there. i think if it comes in higher than that, it's going to be positive. if it doesn't, it's going to be a negative. >> so steve liesman, what
comes right through. >> also, tomorrow night, all of the nbc universal networks, including us, will air a benefit concert featuring bruce springsteen, john bon jovi, and others. you got to watch it. stay tuned. >>> hi, everybody. we enter the final stretch. welcome to the "closing bell." i'm maria bartiromo at the new york stock exchange. the bill,s market kicking off a new month with a solid rally. investors optimistic ahead of tomorrow's key october job report. >> tomorrow's employment numbers could have a major effect not only on wall street but on the presidential election as well. we'll get market experts to weigh in on that a little later. the other big story, of course, the continued fallout from hurricane sandy. if you have a car in new york, new jersey, other areas affected all along the coast, chances are you're having a hard time filling your gas tank. many stations are still closed. others are seeing huge lines. the question is how long is this going to last? we're going to get into that coming up. >> but first, let's look at where we stand as we approach this fina
creation? >> well, from a corporate standpoint, yes, maria, because most u.s. corporations are sitting on cash. as you saw profit margins hitting all-time highs. they're clearly not hiring a lot. at the end of the day, this whole economy and the stock market is about jobs. the market could be up even more if we start to see some job creation, but we can't be bidding stocks higher unless we start to see some in flows from our private client friends, who by the way, don't buy bond funds. we still think there's a lot of work to do on the investment side in terms of building further fundamental clarity with respect to the option of buying equities versus selling them. >> so you're not jumping on this bandwagon today, this rally we're seeing here? >> no, for one thing, we are just relieved that all of this election stuff is over. that's number one. number two, let's get back to the business of america and stocks going up in america as an asset looking very well on a longer term perspective. however, on a near-term basis, the market in our belief is well ahead of historical norms in terms of
we can address that. you have situations in the northeast. mother nature beat us down twice in the last ten days. there are some things still being sorted out there. of course, europe is creeping back into the spotlight. there are a few things overhanging the market. maybe people are saying it's time to take a little off the table. i think there's short, mid, and long-term investment opportunities. >> jim, i guess we don't have the clarity on tax rates. that's probably one of the big issues. if you own winners in the market, you know, what would stop you from selling them now knowing your taxes are definitely going higher in 2013 and we don't know by how much? >> i think that's exactly right. the thing that came out of tu tuesday is we're still a divided nation. that translates into it looks a little more difficult for them to come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. that's what's changed. so obviously what would get the market to go up would be that we have a deal. unless we get one, you're right. if taxes are going up, your window is between now and the end of the year that you
thing it reminds us is you shouldn't bet on anything. we should bet on volatility. we could bet on the doomers and gloomers, y2k and here we go again. the whole name of success is to have a repeatable process on how to deal with investing. whether it's in stocks, bonds, gold, doesn't matter. have a plan, a strategy, have consistency. it's going to be volatile in every single asset class through the end of january. >> lee, you say as an investor, ignore the fiscal cliff, right? >> i'm like bill. you have to have a process. i don't care what they're doing. do i care about some of my clients with deductions? there's a lot of talk about cap deductions. sure, i am but i'm not going to change my invest bonds or strategy. we use risk budgeting, risk management techniques. going into next year there's a sense at my firm that we have to squeeze more out of every tactical move we can because of potential tax consequences. i just think that makes you leaner and meaner. if you're a company that struggled over the past couple of years with this anemic growth, 2013 i'm optimistic and think th
bell" will have much more on this deal. >> down 54% year to date. thank you so much for joining us today. >> i'm off tomorrow. you got here. happy thanksgiving, everybody. >> "closing bell" is next. >>> hi, everybody. we enter the final stretch. welcome to the "closing bell." i'm marcich -- maria bartiromo the new york stock exchange. a shocking loss at hewlett-packard, damaging the entire market. the story broken here on cnbc by david faber earlier. >> this has been a really newsy day for a holiday shortened week. i'm bill griffeth. let's show you the markets, how they've been trading here. it will be pretty evident when ben baernanke made that comment that the fed doesn't have the tools to deal with the economy should we go off the fiscal cliff. down it went. we were down 94 points on the dow on the low of the session. now off that low, down 39 at 12,756. nasdaq's lower. apple is also lower today after that monster 7% plus rally yesterday. it's down about a percent right now. the nasdaq down 8-plus points. the s&p is down 3 at 1383. >> not a lot of news from the bernanke lunch ex
to be careful. these are unknowable things. it's a very fluid situation, as you identified. somebody gives us some happy talk. this market goes straight up. i think gold is giving perhaps a false signal there won't be qe-4. i believe there will be. it's just a matter of time. this is going to take time to implement. we're not going to put all these changes in place january 1. there's no grand bargain out there that's going to cover all these things at once. it's going to be to have phased in. it would be too much shock to the financial system. >> steve, if only the market could focus on just the economy, which actually seems to be chugging along okay. if you look at durables, consumer confidence, the ongoing recovery and housing, it's the overhang of the cliff that's spooking everybody. >> yeah, we've had somewhat better numbers. the new home sales today, not great. maybe sandy affected even though the government said it wasn't. the economy's okay. it may be more of a 2% plus economy in the fourth quarter than is being given credit on the street. it's not gang busters. the question has been f
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